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Katja
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No, potem pa eno naročite, pa da se vidi, a jo je možno dobit ali ne.
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Lai Ming
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quote:eb0de4cb75=".:sonja:."
A te muce? Seveda ni nateg. To so pred časom delali Japončki, ker so imeli tako muco za okras. Ali to še počnejo, pa ne vem.




Madonca, tole pa že ptički na drevesu čivkajo, da je en navaden NATEG. Je
treba malo pobrskat okrog; obstaja prav ena stran, kjer so naštete
takšne in podobne strani, ki so "hoax".
http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/bonsai.asp



Bonsai
kittens are not real. Nobody is making bonsai kittens.
Nobody is
selling equipment to help people make bonsai kittens. Nobody is
instructing
people in the "lost Eastern art of sealing 

kittens inside rectilinear jars."

The Bonsai Kitten web site is a joke, not an actual promotion for the
making of bonsai kittens.
Investigations by law enforcement agencies,
including the FBI, have already determined no real cats were harmed in
the creation of the pictures used on the Bonsai Kitten web site.
Signing a petition to shut down the Bonsai Kitten web site will not
prevent any kittens from being harmed, because no kittens were harmed
in the first place
.




It was all a joke
, one which some say was in terribly poor taste. If
that was your reaction, take comfort in the knowledge that many others
thought the same.


How could you have known the Bonsai Kitten site was a satire
despite its lack of "This is a joke!" banners emblazoned across it?
Satire doesn t always announce itself as such (some feel that would
ruin its humor), so in cases like this, one dusts off the common sense
and aims it at the problem:
  • The process described is impossible: animals so treated would die long before they could be "molded."
  • The web site offers no way to purchase the materials advertised. A
    real commercial enterprise wouldn t build consumer interest through a
    flashy web site then fail to offer anything for sale. (The site does
    include a page of "Helpful Tools & Supplies" but provides no form
    through which they can be ordered.)
  • The "Bonsai Kitten" site displays no actual pictures of the
    finished product. There are plenty of pictures of kittens in jars which
    can comfortably accommodate them (cats are quite elastic and can fit
    into very small spaces without discomfort), but there are no
    photographs of molded kittens on display.


The cruel.com web site offers an article entitled "Happiness is a Rectilinear Kitten," their comprehensive history of the furor and media coverage generated by the Bonsai Kitten web site throughout its first year of existence.




http://www.hsus.org/pets/issues_affecting_our_pets/animal_abuse_and_neglect/bonsai_kitten_web_site/index.html

Since December 2000, The Humane Society of the United States has
received literally thousands of complaints about a "Bonsai Kitten" web
site?
subsequently determined to be a hoax?that describes how to stuff
kittens into glass containers to warp their bodies into the shape of
the container. The site s creator describes and illustrates in detail
the method for abusing these animals. Most of the illustrations, which
appear to have been altered with
photo-editing software, depict live
kittens being jammed into glass containers.

The HSUS investigated
these complaints and found that the site was a joke created by a
student at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (M.I.T.), who had
registered it at his school under a false name.
Encouraged by all the
negative attention, the student cited his right to free speech in an
attempt to keep the site online, but M.I.T. sided with the animal
protection organizations and citizens who complained, and removed the
site on December 22, 2000.


The following month, the site
resurfaced on a new host, WEB2010.com. We contacted this company to
voice our concerns, and the company removed the site on January 17,
2001.


While we were grateful to these hosts for removing the
site, history tells us that creators of offensive web sites often seek
out new hosts until they find one that has either no User s Agreement
or allows all content, no matter how offensive, permitted under the
First Amendment. The creator of the Bonsai Kitten site followed this
pattern, and the site is currently hosted by a new company that refuses
to remove it.


The Massachusetts SPCA and the FBI initiated an
investigation of the site s creator, but discovered no evidence of
actual animal abuse or the sale of bonsai kitten "products," though the
investigation remains active. If the creator is not e-mailing the
obscene materials to an unwilling audience, violating a User s
Agreement, committing the abuse depicted on site, or actually selling
products involving animal cruelty, then the site is considered free
speech and is protected by the First Amendment.


How You Can Help


Please do not
e-mail or otherwise contact the person running the site. The negative
attention he s received has fueled the posting of the site in several
locations and the formation of a group of supporters. One course of
action is to contact the Internet Service Provider (ISP) that hosts the
site. There are some exceptions, but in most cases, ISPs have removed
sites because they determined that the sites content violated their
User s Agreement. For information on how to determine the ISP that
hosts a particular site, see our web page on "What You Can Do about Web
Sites that Promote Animal Cruelty."


A more effective response to
web sites that depict animal cruelty is to submit information about
them to the "Animal Cruelty Action List." The list s goal is to
coordinate the efforts of the online community through targeted legal
and time-sensitive methods, so that such sites are removed quickly,
thus frustrating the purpose of the sites creators to draw attention
to themselves and their site. For more information, visit the Hugs for
Homeless Animals web site by clicking the link below.


The
numerous complaints we have received about the Bonsai Kitten site have
made us aware of the many good-intentioned people eager to make a
difference. Every day animals are deliberately set on fire, beaten,
tortured, drowned, dragged behind cars, stabbed, or otherwise abused.
We need your help to put an end to the abuse of all animals. If you
would like to become involved with issues that need immediate action,
follow the link to the right to subscribe to our free weekly
e-newsletter, HUMANElines. You can start making a difference for
animals in distress today!


Bo dosti "dokazov"?






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gita
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nevem nevem Wink
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*malla*
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ej pa jest upam za njihovo dobro da to ni res, ker potem bom pa res in bom res enga v stekleničko stlačla
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Lai Ming
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Še nekaj spletnih strani:



http://www.klik.hr/danas/200102130002059.html   (v hrvaščini)

Na sre
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Spela
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hvala bogu da je nateg!

samo odkod take ideje, če tudi je nateg???? sedaj bo ziher marsikdo
nenormalen dobil zgled in idejo in bo res šel mucko v stekleničko
potiskat!

če ne drugega kaki otroci
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Rose
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quote:c558ddde8a="*malla*"ej pa jest upam za njihovo dobro da to ni res, ker potem bom pa res in bom res enga v stekleničko stlačla





Boš mogla jih po kosih stlačt v steklenico Big smile Sicer pa se popolnoma strinjam!
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zeljna_SPREMEMBE
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 joj ej ... jaz sem mislila, da je zadeva resnicna!!!
 
 GROZA
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Alena
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quote:9c9642bd90="*malla*"a še katero potem taka jeza zagrabi, da bi kakega osebka v tako stekleničko stlačla
 
Mene. Dobro, da ni res. Čeprav me ne bi čudilo, če bi bilo. Folk je bolan in dela vse živo.
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mojcej
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Se strinjam s tabo Alena, folk je res bolan in ne bi bilo nič čudnega če bi še kaj takšnega počeli. Sem pa vesela in potolažena da ni res.
 
Hvala Lai Ming, pridna si bila
Packarije http://mojcej.moj-album.comBedarije :) http://mojcej.webs.com
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Dina
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Tudi jaz sem že videla te bonsai kitten na enem forumu, pa so že tam
pisali da je natega. Po eni strani hvala bogu, po drugi strani sem pa
jezna, pa tudi zaskrbljena, ker zame je tisti, ki si je to "natego"
zmislu, ravno tako bolan in mogoče bo nekoč to uresniču, ali je pa
ravno zaradi te strani nekdo dobil idejo pa bo to sam probu iz firbca
ali pa kaj takega. Mogoče so pa to ustanovitelji te strani že probal,
pa se ni obneslo, ali pa kaj takega, kaj pa vem. Moram pa priznat, da
sploh nisem odpirala strani, da bi videla kaj naj bi delali tem muckam,
ker se že takoalitako preveč sekiram za vsako tako stvar, tudi če samo
slišim kaj drugi pravijo. Skratka, meni ni smešno in tudi če je natega,
so ti ljudje zame še vseeno prasci bolani.
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*urška*
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Hvala bogu, da je natega, ker drugače bi jih ....
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kia
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Pa ne glede na nateg ali ne...kater idiot bi si tako "fikcijo" sploh zamislil v glavi, da bi naredil. tako stran? Še vedno jokam..kljub temu da ni res
Save the earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.
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Angellina
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Prekleti psihopati!!!
Pa je to dejansko komu smešno?Ne vem..si ne predstavljam, da bi lahko bilo to komorkoli smešno,čeprav ni res.Tudi s tistimi,ki jim je to funny, je nekaj močno narobe.
Normalnost je relativna.
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gita
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JA!!
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